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I'm still ki...Thanks, Ami! Glad you liked it.<br /><br /><br />I'm still kind of kicking myself on my original error. I was familiar with everything Saranga mentioned prior in her comment when I wrote my post, but I flat out forgot to factor it in. When I make errors on my post, I usually try to correct them quietly if I spot them within a time I can reasonably assume no one but me has read it yet. But when someone spots it and comments, what I do next depends on the error. Usually, I leave it in the post as is and make any mea culpas/corrections in the comments section. In this case, it was TOO BIG an error to leave in the post as is (it contributed too much to the general atmosphere of misinformation), but I didn't want to whitewash that I'd made it and who corrected it for me.<br /><br /><br />Ironically, Ami, one of the graphic images you mention was ised in the original post of the guy who misinterpreted the Onion abortion spoof.<br /><br /><br />BTW, speaking of the MRA guy (MarkyMark?)you mentioned, check out my (admittedly cannibalized) response in his comments section.notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-47599604007544891182011-05-05T17:31:18.311-07:002011-05-05T17:31:18.311-07:00Oh and I dun have time atm to look for links about...Oh and I dun have time atm to look for links about what the products of an abortion looks like, or the Sociological Images post (if you haven't seen either :) ) but you can proly find them using google :)Ami Angelwingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07263018434610100226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-53702768470016362312011-05-05T17:30:30.350-07:002011-05-05T17:30:30.350-07:00This is a good post :) I tend to cringe when I re...This is a good post :) I tend to cringe when I read abortion posts from ppl "on the fence" but yours was very fair, and I think you were very respectful :) And yeah, Saranga is right, the images used by anti-choice advocates are not of most abortions (and some aren't even of abortions at ALL), where the results are literally miniscule and about a few CM long of tissue. Women aren't visibly pregnant during the stages where the vast majority of abortions are done either (there's a GREAT Sociological Images post about how a lot of media reporting about abortion issues use stock footage of 8 month pregnant women, and that leads to the idea that that's when abortions are happening). :) Not that it changes nething to me about how grisly something is (operations can be pretty grisly, GRS is quite grisly), b/c you know my stance on it (body autonomy, as I hope you can understand, is a v personal issue for me also, b/c state control of the body and what's "necessary" and not also has to deal with other issues, including hormones and GRS) but I do understand that these details are big factors for other ppl, and while I'm not saying what ppl shoudl believe or not, they should at least have some myths clarified (what the results of an abortion look like for one, also when it almost always takes place) :)<br /><br />And ty also for pointing out that if you're anti-abortion but anti-contraception you're shooting yourself in the head -_-;;<br /><br />The onion believing guy is hilarious xD The anti-gay marriage ppl in Canada did that too when they filed an Onion article in court while the court was deciding on gay marriage xD And the MRA guy I pointed out. I think, and this applies to ALL extreme ideologues not just ones I disagree w/, when your view on life is best proven/illustrated by a satire newspaper going over the top parody w/ what's alrdy a societal stereotype/misconception... there's I think an issue w/ your perceptions of reality >_>;;<br /><br />Neways, sry I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to say that this was a very good post, and very honest also and I respect you even more for it :)Ami Angelwingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07263018434610100226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-64921498228937915802011-04-29T11:43:13.262-07:002011-04-29T11:43:13.262-07:00I tried to put the corrections on there in a way t...I tried to put the corrections on there in a way that kept up the flow of the post but still acknowledged your assistance. Hope I succeeded.notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-1175595364571508502011-04-29T11:00:06.456-07:002011-04-29T11:00:06.456-07:00Fair play. I'm not trying to have a dig, I ju...Fair play. I'm not trying to have a dig, I just wanted to respond.<br /><br />As you say there's so much misinformation out there that I (sometimes) think it's worth challenging things if it;s not made clear.<br /><br />For example - I sued the thinkt he morning after pill was the same as an abortion. It's not. It prevents the sperm fertilising the egg, but if that's already happened it has no effect. This explains why it decreases in effectiveness over the 72 hour period you can take it.<br />I wish someone had made that clear to me when I was younger!Sarangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545162612237984546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-81693803211924591432011-04-29T10:02:45.672-07:002011-04-29T10:02:45.672-07:00Also, thanks for the well wishes, Saranga!Also, thanks for the well wishes, Saranga!notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-74812643748028460152011-04-29T10:02:19.495-07:002011-04-29T10:02:19.495-07:001. Valid point on the difference between stages an...1. Valid point on the difference between stages and trimesters. My mistake on not factoring the differences AND not factoring in RU. (Still deciding what text to use to fix my post.) Still, it underscores my other point about the degree of disinformation that I fall prey to it here, doesn't it. (And I'm not trying to pull a Donald Trump "congratulating myself for being full of crap" move with that last sentence. Honest!)<br /><br /><br />2. I included the paragraph about the Onion article precisely to point out (and hopefully dispel)the "on a whim" fallacy.notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38514384.post-82514037617112687192011-04-29T09:19:23.538-07:002011-04-29T09:19:23.538-07:00Good post. Like you, I have complicated feelings...Good post. Like you, I have complicated feelings towards abortion, but ultimately I think it's every woman's right to choose, dependent on her personal sitation and no one else has the right to impose their will on her, either way (including the father).<br /><br />But as I say, my feelings are complicated and I am not responding in order to get into discussion about abortion.<br /><br />I would like to argue a point though- <br />when you say that abortion is grisly, it does depend on what stage you have the abortion at.<br />Early stage abortions which involve taking 2 pills are not grisly, not invasive and far less complicated than later stage abortions.<br />And really late stage abortions do not take place on a whim. They take place if the health and life of the mother and child are at sever risk. And yes, by all accounts they are grisly and horrible and traumatising. 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